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GODORT Business Meeting - Minutes 1/12/98 GODORT
Business Meeting
Minutes
January 12, 1998
GODORT BUSINESS MEETING
Dan Barkley, Presiding
Linda Johnson, Recording
1998 ALA Mid-Winter; New Orleans, LA
January 12, 1998, 2 - 4 PM
Hilton Magnolia Room

Dan Barkley called the meeting to order at 2:03 PM.  He welcomed everyone
and introduced the head table: Edward Swanson, Parliamentarian and Linda
Johnson, Secretary.

Approval of the Agenda
The Agenda was approved with a change in its order.  Robert Walter, Chair,
Legislation Committee, will report first so that he can bring forward the
committees resolutions to the ALA Committee on Legislation which is now
meeting.

Legislation Committee
Walter brought forth two resolutions from the Legislation Committee which
have been approved by the ALA Government Information Subcommittee.  It was
brought to the attention of ALA President Barbara Ford that the area
handbook series may disappear since the Department of the Army has
withdrawn funding for the research done by the Library of Congress for
these.

Walter moved that it be endorsed in principle:  
BE IT RESOLVED, that the American Library Association affirm the
intellectual value of the Area Handbook series and urge the Joint
Committee on the Library, the Librarian of Congress, the Secretary of
Defense, the Secretary of the Army, and the Secretary of State to secure
funding for its research, publication, and dissemination. 

Discussion followed with Walter confirming that the area handbooks are not
being replaced by something on the WEB but rather are being completely
discontinued.  The motion passed.  The second resolution dealt with
Congressional Research Service publications which have been an issue for a
long time.  This resolution is somewhat delicately worded to avoid any
offense which might be taken by those concerned about the appropriateness
of releasing some of the CRS publications.

Walter moved that it be endorsed in principle:
BE IT RESOLVED, that the American Library Association urge that the Joint
Committee on the Library, the Senate Rules and Administration Committee,
and the House Oversight Committee take immediate action to assure that
non-confidential Congressional Research Service reports and information
products are distributed to Federal Depository Libraries and are made
available in a timely manner to the general public on the Internet.
There was no discussion and the motion carried.

Approval of Minutes
The minutes of the 1997 Annual Business Meeting as published in the
September, 1997, DTTP, Vol. 25 No. 3 were approved.

Announcements
Barkley announced that the deadline for the March 1998 issue is January
15.  The deadline for the June 1998 DTTP which includes the minutes from
Mid-Winter meetings is March 1.

Barkley announced that drafts of any letters being sent by the GODORT
Chair need to be to him by January 31.  He also announced that the
candidates running for ALA President have been invited to speak so when
they arrive, the Business Meeting will be suspended for them.

Barkley noted that the ASCLA Member Survey done by the Ad Hoc Committee on
Organization regarding the proposed merger with ASCLA & ILERT is available
at the back table with typographical errors corrected.

Andrea Sevetson, Immediate Past Chair, announced a change of meeting
location.

Treasurers Report
Andrea Sevetson reported for Treasurer Judy Horn who was unable to attend
the conference.  She referred to the multi-paged and multi-colored Budget
Report Package.  On the first sheet Treasurers Report FY 1995-1996 (Year
to Date) Corrected, ALA agreed to the correction in budget line #5302
representing the reception in New York.  This is an improvement of about
$4000.  On the second sheet FY 1996-1997 (Year to Date) there is a deficit
of $2,045 which is due to a lack of revenue.  We normally have about $6000
in DTTP advertising revenue but last year we had 0 because no billing was
done.  This has been rectified with over $12,000 in DTTP advertising
revenue deposited this year. We anticipate getting even more before the
end of the fiscal year.  The fund balance has dropped to $39,150 and
without adequate revenues, reserves will diminish rapidly so we need to
increase our revenues. The goldenrod sheet, the Treasurers Report,
1997-1998 (Year to Date), shows the revenues and expenditures for the
fiscal year which began September 1. Since we have received only one
performance report, this report represents just the first month of the
fiscal year.  There is an error in line #5302 which ALA is investigating
and will most likely rectify. The final white sheet is the Proposed Budget
1998-1999  approved by Steering at Annual in San Francisco.  Once again
our expenditures exceed our revenues.  GODORT does traditionally deficit
budget but because we do not spend all of the funds budgeted there is not
cause for alarm.  However, if there is not an increase in revenues and
Steering agrees to any additional purchases we will likely run a deficit
again next year.  It is extremely important that GODORT find additional
streams of revenue.  The Steering Committee has been working on this
problem on a number of fronts and hopefully there will be some action by
the end of this conference.

Task Force Action Items and Reports

Federal Documents Task Force
No action items.

International Documents Task Force
No action items.  Mike McCaffrey-Noviss, Coordinator, called attention to
the fact that the IDTF did pass a motion in the form of a statement of
concern to GODORT urging a fuller form of funding for the GODORT IFLA
liaison.  This corresponds to Horns Option # 3 of the Liaison Report
distributed to Steering.  He mentioned that the schedule for the
Pre-Conference on June 25, International Organization Information for the
21st Century will soon be posted on listservs and other venues.  The IDTF
Meeting Minutes will shortly be posted on the IDTF WEB page.

State and Local Documents Task Force
Deborah Hollis reported for Sandra Webber.  No action items.

Committee Action Items and Reports
Awards Committee
No report

Budget Committee
Sevetson submitted to Steering the report on GODORT liaisons for
consideration at 2nd Steering.  A request to delay the consideration of
the purchase of an LCD panel for the GODORT computer while more research
can be done will be brought to Steering.  Sevetson noted that since
Divisions do not pay for any equipment at conferences while Round Tables
pay for all equipment, our decision on the ASCLA merger will impact the
LCD purchase decision.

Bylaws Committee
No Action Items.

Cataloging Committee
Arlene Weible, Chair, reported on her activities between conferences.   At
the request of the GODORT Chair, she investigated  and wrote a letter to
OCLC in support of the Gils Profile in the Z39.50 standard. Her letter was
approved by the Steering Reflector.  She received an informal response
from OCLC and expects a formal response from them soon which she will
share with Steering.  Since this is such a complicated issue, she did not
take up Business meeting time explaining  but offered to discuss with
anyone who is interested.  After discussion in the Committee which
included Tad Downing from GPO, it was decided Weible will write a formal
recommendation to GPO Cataloging Branch to pursue a policy to create
collection level records for Internet resources.  

The committee spent time discussing WEB page development.  

The Mid-Winter discussion panel on Cataloging Pre-1976 Documents was
well-attended with some positive outcomes.  She thanked everyone who was
involved.  Barkley asked if there were any questions for Arlene about the
Dublin Core issue. She indicated the letter dealing with this was designed
to correct the perception in the standards development community that the
library community does not support GILS standards profile.  From responses
she got, the letter and the support it represents was well received.

Education Committee
No action items.  Patricia Cruse, Chair, announced that the Chair of ACRLs
Education & Behavioral Sciences Section Program Committee, came to the
committee meeting to see if we would like to participate in the 1999
annual program, Information Services for Citizen Participation,
Protection, Education, Advocacy.  They would like help with the content
and contacting speakers.  The committee wants to pursue this particularly
since it was felt this would reach people who usually do not attend GODORT
programs.  There is no money involved in this proposal. 

The WEB Page Work Group recognizes that there is a tremendous amount of
materials available on the Internet that would facilitate the successful
management of electronic government information.  Some of these include
the standards for cataloging electronic materials, collection development
policies, and how to launch CD-ROMs from a WEB browser.  Working with the
other GODORT WEB groups, we want to pull these together and make it easy
for librarians to get to them. Acknowledging that even though scheduling
is difficult, the Committee would like to suggest arranging future GODORT
meeting schedules so that the Cataloging, Education, and GITCO Committees
do not met at the same time.   This would give them the opportunity to
attend each others meetings.  

Cruse introduced and thanked Amy Spare for all the work she has done on
the Ad Hoc Committee on Continuing Education Fund which was established by
a gift from Jack Sulzer.  Spare reported on the two proposals which will
be brought forward to Steering. The first proposal is partnering with an
institution to create a teleconference on Advocacy Skills for Government
Information Librarians  We would prepare the content and presenters and
the partner would help with the production. The second proposal will
identify, bring together, and enhance resources available on the WWW that
will assist government information librarians in the successful management
of electronic government information and in building advocacy skills to
promote access to this information. It will gather already available
sites, evaluate them, identify what is missing, and supply grants to
government information librarians to create and maintain tutorials on the
site. Spare thanked Sulzer for the opportunity to work on this.  
Barkley asked Cruse if in relation to the ACRL conference we were being
asked to cosponsor or lend the GODORT name? Cruse indicated it would be
premature to offer to co-sponsor as the ACRL committee chair had not yet
met with her committee. Cruse will contact the committee chair after the
Mid-Winter conference and there seems to be no financial commitment for
GODORT.

Government Information Technology Committee
Barbara Levergood, Chair, announced the completion of the WEB page
template by Cathy Hartman, Larry Schankman, and Mary Mallory.  This is
available through the GITCO WEB page.

Although there was considerable interest on the part of GITCO in doing a
program, due to extensive commitments, we will not do one.  There was
interest in the concept of working with MAGERT, LITA, and GODORT for a GIS
program at Annual 2000.

A summary of comments and recommendations from GITCO, GOVDOC-L, and the
FDTF Work Groups on the CD-ROM Electronic Information Product Standards
put together by Chuck Eckman was distributed.  GITCO would like more
comments before distributing the report.
Levergood moved that:

 The GODORT Chair write a cover letter to Jeanne Hurley Simon, Robert S.
Willard, and Woody Horton of NCLIS with copies to Anne Heanue and Carol
Henderson of ALA Washington Office and Gil Baldwin and Sandy Schwalb of
GPO, transmitting a report from GITCO outlining recommended standards for
CD-ROM products and expressing an interest on the part of GODORT and
Federal Depository Libraries in participating in the NCLIS standards
assessment process. 

Levergood noted the report and the letter would not be ready until
mid-March. No discussion, the motion passed.  Barkley indicated the
mid-March date was acceptable. Levergood elaborated that this was timed
based upon Woody Hortons appearance at Council in April so that the report
would be fresh in peoples minds.
 

Membership Committee
No action items.  Karen Russ, Chair, thanked Frances Skiffington for the
local arrangements in New Orleans and the people who attended the New
Members Lunch.  The lunch was very successful with about 25 people
attending of which 7 were new members and 2 were potential members.
Volunteers are needed for the local arrangements for Mid-Winter in
Philadelphia.  Barkley thanked Russ and the Local Arrangements group.  He
also noted that thanks to the work of the Membership Committee, the St.
James Hotel is reserved for GODORT in DC for Annual and that there will be
a GODORT suite.

Nominating Committee
Michele McKnelly, Chair, announced the names of Elizabeth Baur, Donna
Koepp, Larry Schankman, Andrea Sevetson, and Arlene Weible which will be
sent to the ALA Executive Board as recommendations for appointment to the
Depository Library Council.  She also asked for people to consider running
for ALA Council; she has the forms.

The meeting was suspended while Sarah Long, candidate for ALA President
spoke.

Program Committee
Kathy Tezla, Chair, described the two programs being planned for Annual
1998.  These are the conference program on Monday after the CIS breakfast
sponsored by the Rare and Endangered Documents Committee. Preserving Our
Nations Heritage; How Do We Protect Our Rare and Endangered Government
Publications and the pre-conference on "International Organization
Information for the 21st Century" sponsored by IDTF in conjunction with
the office of the Delegation of the European Union which will be held June
25.  We are excited about both these programs which are very strong and
should be well-attended.

The Committee is beginning to talk about the 1999 program, with a proposal
on "How Are We Managing Our Depository Library Programs in Changing
Cultural Work Environments."

Publications Committee
Marcia Meister, Chair, reported on a number of issues.  In regards to
DTTP, Jill Moriearty and John Shuler have agreed to serve as Advertising
Managers and Lisa Beinhoff was appointed as the Distribution Manager at
Annual in San Francisco.  The committee has had a number of productive
discussions about production, content, and distribution issues.  For
example, one of the items under consideration is various cost estimates
including one from ALA Publishing.  It is very comparable to what we are
currently paying for the DTTP production and distribution. If we go with
ALA publishing it may make for more timely and effective distribution.  
In other matters, a position description was drafted and approved for the
Website Administrator.  This is currently being done by Sevetson but this
will formalize the duties and reporting structure for the administrator.
The position will appear on GOVDOC-L and on the GODORT WEB page with a
formal appointment made following Annual.  

A number of new items such as forms for Notable Documents, the DTTP editor
and staff listing, and the DTTP Advertising rates are linked on the
Publications Web Pages.  Barbara Ceizler Silver is the new editor of the
List of Notable Documents scheduled to be published in a spring issue of
Library Journal.  Two publications, "Guide to Official Publications of
Foreign Countries" and "Guide to Country Information in International
Government Organization Publications" have been published by CIS.
Complimentary copies supported through GODORT royalties are offered to
libraries in developing countries.

The meeting was suspended while Martin Gomez, candidate for ALA President
spoke.

The Publications Committee report continued.  McCaffrey-Noviss asked when
the March 1998 DTTP will be mailed; it should arrive end of March.
Barkley thanked the Executive Board, Swanson, Moriearty and Shuler for
their work on DTTP issues.

Rare and Endangered Documents Committee
Ann Miller, Committee Member, gave an overview of the Annual program,
"Preserving Our Nations Heritage, How Do we Protect Our Government
Publications?" which will include a series of speakers.  August Imholtz, a
noted authority on the Serial Set, will speak on some of the discoveries
he made working with CIS and the results of the recent survey.  Jane
Gillis of Yale will speak to rare government documents within the library
and we are looking for a speaker from the rare book community to discuss
what is valuable within our collections and should be protected.
George Barnum is going to start revising his GPO Preservation packet on
rare and endangered federal materials that was distributed 4-5 years ago.
The committee is considering making it an annotated bibliography, marking
it up and putting in on the WEB.  The GODORT Education Committee is
considering adding it to their WEB page.

Ad Hoc Committee Action Items and Reports
 
Ad Hoc Committee on Organization
Jack Sulzer, Chair, expects the public hearing held this morning which
dealt with the proposed merger with the Association of Specialized and
Cooperative Library Agencies (ASCLA) and the Independent Librarians
Exchange Round Table (ILERT) to be the last public hearing.  We have been
talking about this for a couple of years now.  There was a good crowd and
exchange at the hearing.  Comments made at that meeting will be reported
through various channels although we may not make the January 15 deadline
for DTTP. They will also be on the WEB site and GOVDOC-L.  And we will be
publishing on the WEB site all the documentation collected from the
various conversations with ASCLA and ILERT including that from our meeting
with their representatives in October. Additionally, Ridley Kessler and
Larry Romans are working on a document on the pros and cons of merging,
hopefully in time for the DTTP deadline.  The committee wanted to provide
the greatest opportunity for information dissemination and discussion so
the membership could decide.  Sulzer presented the committees motion:
The Ad Hoc Committee on Organization moves that a referendum of the GODORT
Membership be conducted on a mail ballot regarding the proposed merger of
ASCLA, ILERT, and GODORT.

The motion was seconded and discussion followed.  
Weible asked for a clarification of what the referendum means, what are we
voting on? Diane Garner interpreted Weible's question as two questions:
what question are we going to send out to the membership and what are we
voting on now?  The answer to these are: "Merge, don't merge" and "Are we
going to ask that question?"

Lengthy discussion followed with a number of people suggesting the voting
be delayed until after the results of the issue of councilors for Round
Tables has been decided. Sulzer felt the counselor issue was not the only
issue as demonstrated by the fact that at the public hearing this morning,
the counselor issue was not a key discussion point. He also noted the
motion does not have a timetable and could be delayed.  Discussion
followed as to the timing and methods to do this. Sevetson as Acting
Treasurer, reminded us that if we wait until after the ALA ballot and vote
in May, there will be an expense to GODORT for mailing of at least $320
for postage plus photocopying.  This would need to go to the Steering
Committee.

Jim Veatch mentioned that even if we are waiting until after May, we could
just as easily wait until after Annual to have a public hearing at Annual.
Veatch moved to table this motion until the Annual Conference, Business
Meeting.  Motion second and discussion followed. Some indicated they were
ready to vote and Sevetson indicated it would be impossible to add another
meeting time to the Annual schedule.

Bernadine Hoduski supported tabling the motion, did not think we need
another hearing, but would like a discussion at the GODORT Business
Meeting at Annual where there will be more people.  Various people felt
there was a need to give members without Internet access the opportunity
to review the documentation, to delay the voting, and place a date on the
motion indicating a vote would take place.  The motion to table was
defeated.  

Barkley returned to the original motion and asked for discussion.
Sevetson moved to amend the proposed motion to read that the ballot should
be sent out between July 15 and July 30, 1998.  Second, no discussion,
motion passed as amended.  

Barkley asked if there was more discussion.  Romans introduced an
amendment to remove the words regarding the proposed merger of ASCLA,
ILERT, and GODORT to replace them with Should the Government Documents
Round Table merge with ASCLA and ILERT.   

Barkley repeated the entire motion:  
The Ad Hoc Committee moves that a referendum of the GODORT membership be
conducted on a mail ballot between July 15 and July 30, 1998 to read:
Should the Government Documents Round Table merge with the Association of
Specialized and Cooperative Library Agencies and the Independent
Librarians Exchange Round Table.

Discussion followed.

Mary Redmond wondered if it would be better to specify a new ALA division
to clarify what are we merging into?  Romans explained that our proposal
is to officially merge into ASCLA for some technical reasons and anything
else would be confusing if put on the ballot.  He went on to say that
ASCLA is now the type of Division that is able to set its own standards
and there is some concern that this status might be lost in a newly
created division. There was some concern that GODORT would be dissolved
before becoming part of anything else.  Brief discussion followed as to
the organizational and procedural mechanism although Barkley indicated
this technical discussion was not appropriate at this time.  The amendment
passed.

Barkley read the motion as passed:
The Ad Hoc Committee moves that a referendum of the GODORT membership be
conducted on a mail ballot between July 15 and July 30, 1998 to read:
Should the Government Documents Round Table merge with the Association of
Specialized and Cooperative Library Agencies and the Independent
Librarians Exchange Round Table.

McKnelly verified what materials could go out with the ballot and there
was discussion suggesting some documentation with an informational sheet
indicating where the other materials were located.

Romans felt  there should be discussion now at the Business Meeting as to
the actual merits of the proposal before sending it to members to vote
upon.  There was some discussion at to the appropriateness of this
discussion at this time Barkley indicated  members can speak to the
question of whether or not to hold the referendum. Some members indicated
that ASCLA has asked every group to join and that for GODORT this merger
is not a good fit.  There followed discussion  that an issue such as the
merger should come before the Business Meeting before going to the full
membership for a vote. Some felt there is a second step which is to
discuss the issue in the Business Meeting as to whether it is a good idea
to have this referendum and the merits of the issue.  Otherwise there is
no other place in GODORT where this is discussed and approved as any other
bylaws change.  Buckley urged that in the formulation of the ballot it be
very clear that this is not like a Bylaws change that has been approved by
the membership at a conference for submission to the entire group but
rather it is being put forth with pros and cons. 

Barkley asked for an extension of the meeting time.  Jan Fryer moved for
an extension of 30 minutes, this was seconded and passed.

Chair Barkley, ruled that the discussion was straying from the point of
whether or not we should bring this to a vote.  Garner spoke for putting
the merger issue to a vote.  She and others feel it is too important to
leave to a few people who have either thought about it or been able to
come to conferences.  GODORT has always operated as a democratic
organization where everyone had the opportunity to say yes or no.  And we
should give our entire membership the opportunity to say yes or no and not
just this committee. 

Based upon the past discussion, it was decided there would be time to
discuss the merger at the already scheduled GODORT Business meeting at
Annual, the delay would allow time for the wide publication and
distribution of the materials, the entire GODORT membership would have an
opportunity to decide, and a definite date for the vote would be set.  The
motion passed. 

Mini-Legislation Day
Sevetson, Chair, reported the committee met this morning.  There is a plan
for action for material due by April to appear on the GODORT WEB site.  It
will include services for Advocacy Skills and Information such as
informing your Congressional delegation, appropriation issues for this
year, copyright, how to find the right staff member in your Congressional
delegation, and follow-up to your visit.

Legislation Committee
Walter returned from the ALA Committee on Legislation to announce that
both GODORT resolutions were passed by the Committee on Legislation as
part of their package.

Reports from Liaisons

Association of Public Data Users (APDU)
Julia Wallace, liaison, reported that APDU is watching developments with
the 2000 Census and there continues to be serious issues related to this.
She posts the important issues which suggest action on GOVDOC-L. She was
unable to attend the annual conference due to a scheduling conflict with
Depository Council, but other attending members will do an article for
DTTP.

Council of Professional Associations on Federal Statistics  (COPAFS)
Susan Tulis, liaison, mentioned that COPAFS is also following the 2000
Census with great detail including the issue of funding for the
statistical agencies.  She will have her usual report in DTTP.

MAGERT Geotech Committee
Kathy Hartman reported on the meeting at which a number of issues were
discussed.  The main thing that came from the meeting was a preliminary
discussion of programs for the year 2000.  We would like to propose that
GODORT think about doing a progressive program between GODORT, MAGERT, and
LITA with the topic, Census 2000.  GODORT would approach this as a program
about collection methodology, the census products, media, etc.;  MAGERT
could focus on maps; and LITA on technology and software.  Barkley
suggested this be discussed with Tezla, Program Chair.

ALA Education Assembly
No report.

ALCTS Cataloging and Classification Committee
Rhonda Marker, GODORT representative to the Committee on Cataloging,
Description, and Access, has been the representative for awhile.  She
believes it is healthy for an organization to offer such opportunities to
a variety of people. If anyone is interested in this post, see Tezla or
Weible.  Marker will be pleased to discuss the requirements with anyone.

Freedom To Read Foundation
Bernadine Hoduski, liaison, announced the Foundation will have a 30th
anniversary celebration at the 1999 conference in Philadelphia.  Ann
Simons is very interested in freedom issues and since our access to
government information fits into that category, we need to get involved in
that particular celebration.  The Foundation is concerned about the
recently introduced "son of CDA," the Communications Decency Act.  She
wanted to check about GODORTs dues being paid to this group.  Hoduski is a
trustee of the Merit Foundation which is connected to the Freedom to Read
Foundation. This is the group that gives money to librarians who actually
carry out our principles and get fired in the process of doing it.  The
Merit group met today and she noticed there are very few GODORT members
who are members; she would encourage everyone to contribute $5 or $10.
Sevetson reported that the Treasurer noted that the $500 for The Freedom
to Read Foundation had not yet been processed.

Old Business
None.

New Business
Barkley asked that members start thinking about a membership dues increase
of $5 to be done by a vote at Annual.   We have not had a dues increase in
4 years at which time the dues went from $12- $15.  We are starting to
encounter more expenses in our GODORT operating budget and in other areas.
We need to start seriously looking at how much we can help the IFLA
representative and perhaps increasing the Freedom to Read Foundation
funding.  We are also looking at the fact that our royalties are starting
to dwindle and we have been highly dependent on these for a long time.
These have compensated for some of the deficit spending we have done in
the past.  Previous chairs and treasurers have done a very good job in
maintaining the budgets as submitted although there are always exceptions
and we have always had reserves.  Barkley would hate to see us loose these
reserves.  Additionally, we are working on a proposal to buy additional
equipment such as an LCD panel so we do not have to rent one which is very
expensive. We will need to update the GODORT computer and printer. So
there are a number of anticipated expenses which we are going to have to find
ways of meeting them.  At this point in time we need to give serious
consideration of a nominal dues increase such as $5.  Barkley urged
Committee and Task Force Chairs to continue to discuss this in their
groups and he may discuss on electronic venues.

Barkley asked if there was any discussion on this issue.  Cindi Wolff said
that although this is a nominal dues increase, there is a lack of
information about the operating issues and budget.  She asked if the
reserve funds were interest bearing and if so, how much interest does that
generate each year?  Secondly, she noticed budget line # 4000 representing
the revenues from membership dues, are always anticipated at $20,000 and
each year it has dropped from $18,000 to $17,000. What kind of affect
would this have on the income if the dues goes up but membership continues
to drop?

Hoduski indicated a dues increase is connected to whether we continue as a
Round Table or become part of a Division.  We need more clarification of
what happens to our funds since she has heard that Divisions are
zero-based funded so that any funds not expended in that year returns to
ALA.  Are there any safeguards so that we will have a reserve?  These are
things that need to be clarified when talking about a dues increase.  She
does not have an objection to a modest dues increase but is not sure
procedurally when this needs to be done and what it means.

Weible reflected the thoughts of the Cataloging Committee that it would be
extremely helpful to have a concrete proposal to consider.  For instance,
this is the first time she had heard the increase was to be $5.  To
facilitate discussion, we need a written justification that details a lot
of these issues.  Barkley indicated he would do one.

Veatch feels that it is still really important to have people on ALA
Council.  We have two people running for Council, Steve Hayes and Jack
Sulzer, who would do an excellent job.  He requested that Steering do all
it can to help promote the candidacy of these people.  We do have
membership who could help get them elected if we could just get them to
vote.  McKnelly announced she has more petitions if anyone else is
interested in running for Council.  Barkley noted and agreed with Veatch's
point and expressed his appreciation to Hayes and Sulzer for running for
Council.  Barkley will do everything he possibly can to widely publicize
Hayes and Sulzers candidacies.

Sevetson asked Romans if he has not traditionally gotten a list from ALA
of the people running for Council and their affiliation and that this is
posted on GOVDOC-L as well?  Romans said yes.  Sevetson indicated people
do have knowledge of GODORT candidates.  Barkley felt Veatch was
suggesting an additional effort.



Meeting adjourned at 4:40 PM